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On the basis of work done individually by the Imperial college
of Wye and by Oxfam, Green identified three different phases
in the context of state intervention and withdrawal in agriculture.
The first phase was the low intensity, semi subsistence phase
which was the starting point. The second phase would be that
of the state coming in providing facilities such as credits,
inputs, irrigation and tariff protection at the national and
international level. The third phase was that when the agricultural
sector was generating surplus and the state had to withdraw.
The crucial question according to Green was whether phase
two, where the state entered, was becoming harder due to the
restrictions being placed by the WTO and whether the WTO could
play a role in encouraging state withdrawal in stage 3.
He continued to outline some of the other dilemmas faced by
low income countries, such as the difficulties faced in entering
agro export markets due to competition from Brazil and East
Asia and due to the existence of large buyer driven value
chains, high levels of technology and packaging standards.
Given the spread of supermarkets and the terrible squeeze
small farmers were facing, he asked whether there were alternate
solutions such as regional markets or import substitution
strategies countries could follow, although he acknowledged
that supermarkets were also spreading in developing countries.
He then went on to explain these dilemmas and difficulties
faced by low income countries in the context of the WTO. His
argument was that the rules of the WTO should be flexible
towards countries depending on the level of agricultural development
they had achieved.
After briefly speaking about the various agricultural groupings
in the WTO he went on to speak about the two main debates
within the WTO - market access and subsidies. He was of the
opinion there was a high degree of awareness on the issues
relating to preference erosion of market access in developed
countries as a result of liberalisation. He suggested that
negative tariffs could be an alternative for preference erosion.
He then spoke about the various proposals that would be discussed
at Hong Kong. He specified that the G20 would argue for a
tiered tariff reduction formula with possible caps on individual
tariff lines, the EU would want loopholes on sensitive products
and the G33 would want self designated special products for
developing countries (products that would impact on livelihood
and food security), and access to an easy to use special safeguard.
He emphasised that special products were not the same as sensitive
products. While special products would be those products that
impacted the livelihood and food security of farmers in developing
countries, the sensitive products according to him was purely
a loophole devised by developed countries to protect their
farm lobbies. In the case of subsidies he argued that export
subsidies were falling and were becoming largely a symbolic
issue. The key issue in subsidies according to him was domestic
support, which would definitely have an impact on trade. With
a graphical representation of the increase in "green
box" subsidies, he pointed out that the US and the EU
were against the proposals for the review of green box subsidies.
To emphasise his point about the trade distortioning nature
of domestic support subsidies he pointed out some figures.
As a result of the subsidies he argued that the European Union
cow had a pay hike of $2.62 per day which was more than that
earned by many poor people in the world. Further last year
25,000 US cotton farmers received $4.3bn in subsidies to produce
goods worth $3.4bn in exports, which was ultimately dumped
on the world market, affecting 10 million cotton farmers in
West Africa. Though an apparent subsidy cut for EU was on
the table in HK he argued that this wouldn't be effective
since this cut was purely on the bound, not the applied, level.
The impact according to him would be only when the cut affected
the applied level. Further, he argued that if there was a
genuine possibility of real cuts occurring, the EU would simply
start 'box shifting' subsidies into categories exempt from
reduction commitments. He concluded his presentation with
Oxfam's topline messages on agriculture. This included a proposed
2010 end date for export subsidies, a curb on domestic subsidies,
policy space for developing countries in the case of tariff
formula and special products/special safeguards and market
access for the poorest countries.
Before opening the floor to discussion, the chair pointed
out a few directions for discussion - The effect of liberalisation
under WTO and the different impacts this would have on the
EU and developing countries, the differential impacts of the
different pillars of agriculture market access and subsidies.
1. In the discussion that followed Morrissey was asked whether
his models implied that no country stood to lose from liberalisation.
To this he answered that his analysis clearly implied that
not all countries stood to benefit from liberalisation in
agriculture. He further argued that even if all countries
stood to benefit that would not imply that everyone within
these countries stood to gain. There would be winners and
losers in every country. He pointed out that the difficulty
in trade reform was the fact that those who were to lose would
know about it and hence lobby against it while the probable
winners would either not be able to identify themselves or,
even in a situation in which the winners were able to know
about the possibility beforehand, the chances for individual
gain would not be sufficiently large for them to lobby actively.
2. Replying to a question on the efficacy of his country
scenarios Morrissey argued that sensitive products were the
latest result of political lobbying in developed countries
to ensure that their protection remained. He also pointed
out that the irony of protecting sensitive products was that
it stood to deny potential gains to EU consumers.
3. A comment was made on the negative impact of the suggested
negative tariffs on exporters in developing countries, as
governments could not coordinate to pay such tariffs and business
would seek products elsewhere. A specific question was asked
to Duncan on his ideas on how to make the negotiation rounds
more development friendly. On a question on whether Oxfam
was for or against liberalisation Green answered that it depended
on the situation and the countries in question. He further
stated that he believed that anyone who either argued that
liberalisation was a fully good thing or a fully bad thing
was confused and hadn't looked at historical evidence. On
a question on what Oxfam believed was a good deal in Hong
Kong he replied that would be one which cut subsidies, provided
an end date for export subsidies and provided developing countries
policy space.
4. It was pointed out that prices going down as a result
of agricultural liberalisation would not necessarily imply
that there would be benefit for the consumers in rural areas.
On an argument for corporate regulation Green suggested that
the WTO was not the best forum for this discussion though
the concept of corporate regulation was important.
5. One audience member asked whether a successful liberalisation
would imply that agro-business in the north would simply shift
production sites to the south, and therefore lead to increased
poverty. Green replied that it would depend on how the liberalisation
and shift occurred. Concerns were also expressed on the sustainability
of the economic benefits in the long term in the context of
environmental degradation.
6. A further question was asked whether there was any political
will for discussing supply side constraints. To this Morrissey's
response was that though there was space within the WTO for
discussing such issues, the WTO was not the best forum to
coherently discuss this. Related to this he also highlighted
that developing countries should put more attention on their
domestic production with import displacement as a possible
outcome rather than import substitution as the intention being
the focus.
7. On a final question on the "early harvest" concept
(getting things approved before Hong Kong), Green replied
that if this was meant as a down payment to get things moving
then it was good concept but if this was a way to conclude
the discussion on development then it was not good.
8. The chair ended the presentation and thanked the presenters
and the audience. He also mentioned that there would be the
last meeting in the series at SOAS on Monday 5 December.
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